How did you start
bellydancing?
I always danced, starting from womb-time. My family
would have me enrolled in some type of movement
program: ballet, jazz, martial arts, gymnastics. Early
in 1991 I experienced some difficult times of the
heart, on the way to discovering my spiritual path…
In a dream of that time, I saw myself seated atop a
great cliff, under an old gnarly tree, playing a drum;
the vision was accompanied by a deep sense of peace.
So pretty soon I was enrolled in a drumming class
series—the first one was African—and began to find
myself involved in musical projects with people. The
first times I remember seeing bellydance in Portland,
Oregon, had been in the year or two prior to this
creative awakening, and by the time I had been
drumming for a half year, the seed had ripened and I
found my first teacher, Aurelia. As they say, when the
student is ready, the teacher will appear. Watching
the movements of bellydance and then practicing them
in class, they felt so natural, as though they were
made for my body.
My teachers?
My first teacher, Aurelia, was an excellent teacher
for me. She enjoyed the feeling of dance in the body,
and was in tune with her own body. She had studied
with Badawia, a prominent dancer in Portland’s early
bellydance scene, from Jordan—and she had a nice
jaunty feel for the dance, plus her own easy sense of
glamour and down-to-earth presence. After a year with
Aurelia, practicing intensively with my workout
partner Joe, I began to perform in Portland clubs,
often late night weekends, with live Greek bands.
It was around that time that I was turned on to the
Gypsy Caravan and began studying tribal style with
Paulette Rees-Denis. Paulette’s mysterious vision
for the dance and the allure of the chemistry between
the dancers and musicians of the Caravan swept me up
in the current of the world of Gypsy Caravan. I began
to perform with the troupe after some time, and my
solo work and the evolving tribal style interwove and
took turns at the center of my world. While
Aurelia’s work taught me how to use what I have
available and dance with sincerity and precision,
Paulette helped me to find other sources from which to
draw for the mystique and power of the dance. She
helped me discover my fire.
My third main teacher has been Dalia Carella, whom
I discovered oh, about 7 years ago at workshops in
Portland and Mendocino. I found Dalia’s passion,
vision, and staging quite compelling and began to
study with her whenever I got the chance. Finally she
made the invitation to come to New York and dance in
her company off-Broadway at the Duke Theatre, for In
Search of a Goddess: Inspirations of the Divine
Enchantress Ruth St. Denis. Working intensively with
Dalia in production has proven to be both sincerely
challenging and truly rewarding.
I have learned (and continue to learn) from many
others, in class and workshop, in Raks Sharki,
folklore, and fusion: Artemis and Tayyar, Yousry
Sharif, Elena Lentini, Sahra, Suhaila, Amel Tafsout,
Amaya, Alexandra King, Laurel Victoria Gray, Jill
Parker, Rachel Brice, Rossah, Kajira, Khadija &
Mustapha, Hassan Harfouche and Yasser Darwish on Dabke;
Carlota, Fali, Jose Molina and Victorio in Flamenco,
Mariecella Devine in hip hop; Lampreia, Pedro Cruz,
and Nicolo in Capoeira, Donna Oefinger and Michelle in
Samba and AfroBrazilian, Angel Burgos and my dad in
Salsa, Najmah for Kathak, Nada for sacred circle
dances, plus various instructors in aerial dance,
ritual trance, yoga, jazz, modern, ballet, martial
arts, and theatre. I continue to study and cross-train
as much as possible, and I usually take three to five
classes a week in various dances and yoga, plus I work
out and run at intervals.
How would you describe yourself as a
dancer?
I am versatile and dynamic, strong, generous,
genuine. I am extremely musical and spiritual in my
approach to dance. I am theatrical and expressive. I
try to be very creative and bring new elements to the
dance each time I perform. I hope that my shows are
exciting, beautiful, deep, empowering, enriching. I
believe in the power of the connections between divine
force, music, dancer, and viewer, and in the
uniqueness of each moment spent in such connection.
Do you prefer to choreograph or improvise?
I prefer the feeling of improvisation, creating the
dance in the moment from the elements therein; but I
do believe there is value in choreographing for stage
work and group dynamic. A nice compromise is the
practice of landmarking and pre-staging a piece and
leaving the in-between up to chance (magic).
People sometimes refer to you as an
American Cabaret style dancer; do you agree with this
description?
I’d say that was my initial order of the study of
bellydance. The kind that was being performed in the
clubs of this country as I was coming into existence,
that sprung mainly from Turkish, Arabic, and Greek
roots, and expressed with an American sensibility. But
I like to think I have more than one trick up my
sleeve. I have enjoyed working in tribal troupes,
working on Egyptian choreographies, developing Nouveau
Tribal Fusion, and working on ethnic contemporary
dance theatre (especially in the Dalia Collective). I
really like to try to immerse myself in different
things.
Which props do you prefer?
Oh, I love the veil and the sword. Veil is like
dancing with the wind, the breath. With sword I like
using combat techniques as well as balancing. I have
received coaching in Kung Fu, Philippine stick
fighting, and Ninja for this, but I still have plenty
of work to do. Lately Dalia has been making me fall in
love with the Spanish fan too. Then there are my
Moroccan qarqaba, more of an instrument than prop, but
have an interesting visual impact as well. Dalia has
asked me to play them for her dances on a couple of
occasions, and sometimes I will incorporate them into
my dances for an instant trancey feel. They really
take you somewhere.
What music do you prefer?
Oh my goodness. There is so much to choose from in
this vast genre. I really do like some of the modern
ethnotechno music, with acoustic instruments played
and club dance beats mixed in—that’s especially
nice for some of the tribal theatric. I do enjoy a
good driving rhythm; a fat Saiidi has a way of moving
one. And some of the Arabic classics, especially when
they wind things up and then drop back down into a
munchin Saiidi or deep Beledi… ooooh yeah. Arabic
music is just so moving. Particularly when played by a
nice big band. I like dancing to Arabic pop now and
again; people are so comfortable listening to it. I
love many types of Trance music, notably the Gnawa,
and percussions of the world. I’m a percussion
freak. I recently discovered a band called
Stereognosis that does a really nice fusion of Spanish
guitar styles, Arabic & Indian tabla, modern
beats/drum&bass, plus a twist of the jazzy. I’ve
got wide tastes, but I’m also finicky. Music is very
important to me.
What is your greatest source of
inspiration?
The music is such an inspiration. So is the
audience, the watchers of the dance. That connection
you feel like an arc of electricity cycling through
dancer, music(ians), viewers, infused with energy. I
am inspired by the beautiful dancers around me and the
beauty of the world’s cultures and lands. Nature has
many gifts for the dancer: wind, fire, water, trees, a
bird, a snake… The breath, love, loss, experience…
Life is an inspiration to dance. We have no choice but
to dance.
What is the most fulfilling part of being a
dancer?
When people approach you and thank you for your
dance or teaching, clearly moved or lifted by an
experience of it. Connecting with some of the really
amazingly dynamic and intelligent people who gravitate
towards the circle of these dances. Being able to
travel and share dance. Discovering ways that we can
use our dance in service to the world, and finding
ourselves involved in global collaboration.
Do you have another career, or is it 100%
dance?
I am grateful for my career in the healing arts that
helps me support my passion for dance, and which helps
me stay in tune with my body. I have been a massage
therapist for 8 years, specializing in deep tissue and
the dancer’s body. It’s almost just another branch
of dance—it uses some of the same energy flow. I am
often working to expand my career further in
complementary ways. Just now I am finishing up the
program to become a personal trainer. I like helping
people find the physical element of their practice
that will make them feel most alive and best suit
their lives. This study will help me with that goal.
Do you teach? Have a troupe? Put on
productions?
I really enjoy teaching. It always challenges me to
develop exciting techniques to practice what can
always use strengthening. It draws from a different
place for new material and new concepts. With
beginners, you find ways of clarifying the foundation,
new ways of sensing familiar things. Just as there are
thousands of ways to kneel and kiss the ground, there
are thousands of ways to sense the execution of a
proper hip drop. I like helping people find and
connect with the sensation of dance in the body. The
possible nuances available in the music. The strength
and the subtlety. It’s an exciting challenge when
you find yourself in a position of teaching
performers, professionals, or your peers and even
mentors. Then you really need to dig deep for your
current best material, and be prepared to give it up,
and clearly, and beautifully.
Lately I’ve been traveling a lot, between NY and
Portland and elsewhere, so I’ve been teaching
specific workshops, like single day or 4 week
programs, rather than regular classes. That works
nicely. In January I will head for Texas for the 3rd
Coast Tribal Jan 6-9 (www.urbangypsy.cc),
to teach and perform with Urban Gypsy, Tribal Feat,
and Sharon Kihara, exploring the expansiveness of
Tribal bellydance. I’ll be in San Diego teaching the
weekend of the 20th, for Jim Boz’s big fancy hafla
www.jimboz.com. They’re developing drink specials
just for this event by the way. These people don’t
mess around.
Troupes… well, I had to leave the Gypsy Caravan
to do my work in New York, alas—that’s a fun
company to be in! But I’m really enjoying working in
the Dalia Carella Dance Collective. It’s kind of on
a per-project basis, but when we have a project, we
rehearse really hard. Dalia thinks of it as a
collective because she really tries to use the various
strengths and talents of the dancers, and we all help
to design some of the choreographies. I also have
another project slowly forming, exploring theatrical
ideas in modern and ancient bellydance. For now it’s
called Spiral. I’m working with dancers in different
locations, and this will also manifest on a per
project basis.
I love doing productions from time to time. Back in
April I brought the Spark tour to New York for
workshops and threw a show called the Cirque du Chat
Noir with them. It was an exploration of the edges of
modern bellydance fusion: we brought in circus arts
and hip hop, theatrics and ritual, Flamenco and Tango,
extreme yoga and sword wielding; then we threw in a
touch of high-quality modern Egyptian and tribal.
People loved it. Back in Portland in September I got
some folks together for a Katrina benefit. It was
called Lamentation and Celebration for New Orleans. We
had Capoeira and Salsa as well as a nice
representation of the dynamic Portland bellydance
scene. It’s meaningful to see the amazing community
of artists gather for a cause. People are so good at
what they do.
We raised almost $2000, and it was disbursed
between MercyCorps, Habitat for Humanity, American
Wetlands, preservation Hall Musicians Fund, and
special scholarships for New Orleans dancers. It felt
so good, and again people loved the show. I’m very
proud of another project in NY and now beyond that I co founded:
Public Urban Ritual Experiment, PURE. I and my friend
the amazing Kaeshi Chai started thinking of a dance
project to sanctify the lines and shadows of the city
along with ways of pulling together community and
being of service in the world. A year and a half
later, we have @ 7 branches throughout the US and a
few seeds internationally, and we are collaborating
with amazing dance-minded individuals and
organizations on ways of facilitating these issues.
www.puredance.org has more info and videos and such.
What do you see as far as trends for the
future of this dance?
I like to think that the future of this dance
includes service in its complete vision; the dance
community as a forum to explore natural ways of being
of service, taking our place in global community. I
see deepening of cultural understanding and knowledge
of traditional dances, but also I see a reaching
beyond what has been done, incorporating theatrics,
edginess, yoga, circus, shamanism, sacred dance, and
fusion-with-integrity of an expanding list of world
dances and personal and divine expressions. Things
seem to get more extreme and more pure at the same
time, stretching, reaching out in opposite directions.
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